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#EditorsChat 2: Finding Work: Tips for Updating your ODE Profile and for Networking

 

Finding Work / Trouver du travail (#EditorsChat / #ReviseursCauserie 2)

Tips for Updating your ODE Profile and for Networking / Conseils pour optimiser votre profil RÉP et pour réseauter

 
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    On your marks / À vos marques…

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    Venez clavarder avec nous le mardi 3 novembre, à 19 h, HNE, lors de notre prochaine séance #ReviseursCauserie :  http://www.reviseurs.ca/node/3148 
     
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    Loved the first #EditorsChat last week! Mark your calendars for Nov 3, and check out the Storify here:  http://bit.ly/1NH8zuF  @editorscanada
     
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    Mark your calendars! #EditorsChat on Nov 3 at 4 pm PST will be about finding work & networking. @editorscanada #amediting
     
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    Only one week until the next #EditorsChat, where @dbwcomm and I will be answering questions about #FindingWork. #editors #networking
     
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    Get set / prêts…

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    Il ne reste que 2 heures avant #ReviseursCauserie. Nous allons parler de trouver de travail avec @Lucid_Editing @dbwcomm et @msoubliere
     
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    Let's meet between meetings. @editorscanada hosts #EditorsChat today, 4 pm Pacific. Networking, finding jobs. @editorsbc #EditorsBCmeet
     
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    Getting ready to moderate my first #EditorsChat tonight with @StaceyDAtkinson (I'll be using @editorscanada). Wish me luck!
     
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    All geared up for our #EditorsChat tonight on networking and finding work!
     
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    It's almost time for our #EditorsChat on #networking and finding work. Are you ready?
     
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    Go! / Commencez!

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    For today’s #EditorsChat we’re talking about finding work and networking with @Lucid_Editing, @dbwcomm and @msoubliere.
     
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    Ce soir nous allons parler de trouver du travail et de réseautage avec @Lucid_Editing @dbwcomm et @msoubliere #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A reminder that we will tag and retweet your Qs. Please tag your #EditorsChat responses with the same number (e.g. use A1 in response to Q1)
     
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    Questions / Discussion

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    Let’s get started! Have questions about finding work or networking? Our experts have the answers. Ask away! #EditorsChat
     
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    Commençons! Nos expertes sont prêtes à offrir leurs conseils pour trouver de travail et pour réseauter #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    Q1 What are some good resources for finding job postings or freelance gigs? #EditorsChat
     
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    A1 Networking with fellow editors on platforms like FB editor groups is a good option #EditorsChat
     
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    A1 Networking, both in person and online (twitter, linkedin, blogs, facebook, etc.) has worked for me. #EditorsChat
     
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    Networking - yes! Huge % of my work traces back to 2 or 3 key clients back in the day. Word spreads. #EditorsChat  https://twitter.com/Lucid_Editing/status/661695504888274944 
     
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    @editorscanada I get quite a bit of work from the Online Directory of Editors, including one long-term fun client! #EditorsChat
     
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    @msoubliere That's a great tip. I haven't tried Indeed.ca yet. Thanks. #EditorsChat
     
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    A1 For daily postings, check out @writingcanada (website link there). For #freelance writers, but often editorial jobs too. #EditorsChat
     
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    A1: I find writer's groups (online and IRL) to be a great place to network and find potential clients (maybe even friends!) #EditorsChat
     
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    A1 A couple of good clients found me on LinkedIn. Having a strong profile there helps! #EditorsChat
     
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    @tanyatrusler I've heard this before, but LinkedIn just isn't my jam. I always forget about it, like eating veggies. #EditorsChat
     
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    @WhynottBlog @tanyatrusler If you're looking for corporate work specifically, LinkedIn is definitely a good forum. #EditorsChat
     
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    .@WhynottBlog I set it up then forgot all about it. Clients still found me, though! A one-time investment of your time! #EditorsChat
     
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    @editorscanada Q1 Où est-ce que je pourrais trouver du travail dans la révision comparative (français vers l'anglais)? #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    @16annelou @editorscanada A1 Bonne question. Dans ce domaine spécifiquement, c'est assez précis/pointu. #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    @16annelou @editorscanada A1 On essaie de trouver des clients directs qui peuvent nous donner de tels contrats. #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    @16annelou @editorscanada R1 On peut aussi trouver de tels contrats auprès des agences (de traduction par exemple). #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A1 2/3 Au présent, le Bureau de la traduction est à la recherche d’autres fournisseurs.  https://bitly.com/a/bitlinks  #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    @editorscanada What's the most effective way to reach out to potential new corporate clients for the first time? #EditorsChat
     
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    A2 See if someone in your network works there or knows someone who does, and try to get a warm introduction #EditorsChat
     
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    Q2 Some people have success with cold emails to potential clients. Not me, but maybe someone else here? #EditorsChat
     
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    A2 1. I heard a neat tip: First use web contact page to ask who you should speak with. #EditorsChat
     
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    A2 2. When person replies, use that person’s name when calling your contact. “X told me you were the one I should speak with” #EditorsChat
     
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    A2 Assertive(ish) approach: show clients what you can do for them. Point out (nicely) problems in their copy that you can fix. #EditorsChat
     
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    Q2 I like getting to know people on a personal level first. Like ME as a person; then you'll want to work with me. #NoHardPitch #EditorsChat
     
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    @cgmanley I agree. That's my preference for finding clients too. #EditorsChat
     
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    @Lucid_Editing Only cold emails I had success with lead to pretty lackluster clients. Feel like it's a who you know situation. #EditorsChat
     
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    A2 Better approach: go to events (book launches, conferences, etc.) & meet people first. Then email. #EditorsChat  https://twitter.com/Lucid_Editing/status/661697715533955072 
     
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    A2 1/2 Cold calls are daunting but can work out. #EditorsChat
     
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    A2 2/2 A cold call that I made to Foreign Affairs in June led to getting on a standing offer for English editors. #EditorsChat
     
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    @16annelou @StaceyDAtkinson R2 Par contre, c'est comme ça que j'ai commencé à réviser pour Perro Éditeur (Bryan Perro) #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    #EditorsChat I need to increase my rate/hour. Thinking of targeting more IT clients--only have 2 now; most clients in humanities. Advice?
     
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    @FrancesLPeck Read it! If IT clients can afford/may expect a higher rate.. market IT? Have great references from 2 IT clients. #EditorsChat
     
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    .@lhietkamp Yes, market IT, business, gov't. All pay better than academia. References: even better. #EditorsChat
     
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    When upping your rate, write down on paper what you ought to charge. It's your script. Commits you. #EditorsChat  https://twitter.com/lhietkamp/status/661696241542172672 
     
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    Q4 1/2 The online directory of editors (ODE) seems like a good place to advertise yourself for work.
     
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    Q4 2/2 What are some tips for creating a strong ODE profile that will get me noticed? #EditorsChat
     
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    A4 Choose the first 148 characters wisely. They’re displayed in the search results. Make clients want to click on your profile. #EditorsChat
     
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    A4 I don’t have an ODE but in general for profiles lead with a strong hook – show why you are different #EditorsChat
     
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    A4 Copywriting resources like AWAI website are good for learning how to sell yourself in your writing  http://www.awaionline.com/search/?q=leads  #EditorsChat
     
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    Q4 Personality! I'm pretty sure most people are bored with the standard, "I've been an editor for X years" format. #JazzItUp #EditorsChat
     
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    A4 Use keywords to increase your findability. I include a list at the bottom of my profile so it's easy to update. #EditorsChat
     
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    @editorscanada A4 Keep it focused to highlight your niche areas. Search the directory to see which ones help you stand out. #EditorsChat
     
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    @Lucid_Editing Just been revising my ODE profile. Will get some feedback from colleagues/clients on it. #EditorsChat
     
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    A4 Update your profile regularly. Highlight your strengths. Be specific about your experience and areas of expertise. #EditorsChat
     
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    A4 Clearly showing my editing niche (educational materials) led to more work than my original, general profile #EditorsChat
     
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    A4 Be sure to include your URL in your ODE profile. Don't have a website? Link to your LinkedIn profile. #EditorsChat
     
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    @msoubliere And also if you don't have a website, use your ODE profile link in your email signature. #EditorsChat
     
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    @16annelou @msoubliere Agreed! All your contact channels should be in your email signature. #EditorsChat
     
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    Twitter's good for networking too. Got 1 workshop (led to another) and 1 editing offer in first few months. #EditorsChat
     
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    .@FrancesLPeck I agree. I network more on Twitter than anywhere else. #EditorsChat
     
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    @WhynottBlog It's for members only, but you are welcome to become a member! #EditorsChat
     
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    Q5 What are the current best practices for professional websites? (So we can make them look good before linking to our ODE!) #EditorsChat
     
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    A5 Responsive design. Which I need to do to my website! #EditorsChat
     
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    A5 Keep it simple, helpful, and audience-focused, use bullet points and headings to break up the text, and have clean visuals #EditorsChat
     
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    A5 Follow Web writing practices (short 20-word sentences, short paragraphs). Update links. Refresh text regularly. #EditorsChat
     
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    @msoubliere You took the words right out of my mouth (or off my keyboard)! #EditorsChat
     
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    A5 Websites have to be mobile-friendly now. Small screens rule. Cut the text; keep it professional but simple. #EditorsChat
     
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    @FrancesLPeck My website is v basic--built it myself. I'd have to teach myself new skill set for mobile friendly. Aargh. #EditorsChat
     
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    A5 I have my site on  http://WordPress.com  because it's simple and they handle a lot of these considerations for me #EditorsChat
     
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    A5 @lhietkamp There are plug-ins that will do small-screen optimization for you, especially if your website is WordPress. #EditorsChat
     
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    @FrancesLPeck @lhietkamp #EditorsChat If you use a recent theme (last two years) it will screen optimize automatically (in WordPress).
     
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    @lhietkamp @FrancesLPeck You mean you aren't rebuilding your website at this very moment? :) #EditorsChat
     
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    @16annelou @FrancesLPeck I get a headache thinking about updating my website. Maybe do trade w an IT person: editing 4 website. #EditorsChat
     
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    A5: Audience-centric copy is a must. Focus should be on what they want/need. #EditorsChat
     
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    A5: Easy contact forms will help you to capture all the info you'll need in one go. Cuts down on initial back and forth. #EditorsChat
     
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    A5 I also like websites that include links to current writing. Mine links to two weekly blogs for clients. Shows current work. #EditorsChat
     
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    .@FrancesLPeck @msoubliere Good Qs. I think refreshing bumps you up in Google searches (not so much for viewers). #EditorsChat
     
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    @FrancesLPeck Impt. for search engines to pick you up, boost you to top of results. Google powers internal corp. searches, too #EditorsChat
     
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    @editorscanada Do you use LinkedIn as a source of leads? Any tips on how? #EditorsChat
     
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    A6 Be active on LinkedIn - don't just connect with people and then not keep in contact. Send a message once in a while. :) #EditorsChat
     
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    @StaceyDAtkinson Je suis sur LinkedIn, mais je ne peux pas dire que je l'utilise de façon optimale, à son plein potentiel.#ReviseursCauserie
     
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    @Mahika24 @StaceyDAtkinson Je pense que je vais m'informer à ce sujet (améliorer mon profil sur LinkedIn). #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A6 Connect with people in the industry. Join related groups and participate there. #EditorsChat
     
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    @tanyatrusler Agreed - and target industries you want to work in, not just editing and writing groups #EditorsChat
     
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    @dbwcomm Being active on LinkedIn discussion groups is key. Also, you can set up a LinkedIn company page to get noticed more. #EditorsChat
     
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    Q7 What’s your number one tip for an introvert who wants to be better at networking? #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 Think about it first as an opportunity to help others and share what you know well - I like the motto “Give give get” #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 Much easier for me than "selling yourself" #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 Get out there and mingle at meetings/confs. You’ll soon realize we editors can easily relate to one another! #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 Breathe. Choose events that appeal to your strengths. Plan your exit. And bring a buddy. #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 I was just thinking about that! Many of my students are introverts. So am I. It's an issue. My advice: playact. #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 Don't feel you have to do everything. And remember networking can happen in pairs as well as groups. #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 You'll see the same faces at various events. Makes it easier to strike up a conversation. #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 1/2 Before going to an in-person event (like a MeetUp), email/tweet attendees to say it's your first time there . . . #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 2/2 . . and say you look forward to meeting folks. It breaks the ice online first & people see your photo via email/Twitter. #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 It's the quality of the conversation that counts, not the quantity #EditorsChat
     
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    @editorscanada A7 Remember that you are an expert. Stand tall. You could be the first editor people ever meet! #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 Pick someone you admire, real person, celeb, whatever. Act like that person, gregarious, poised, & you'll fall into rhythm. #EditorsChat
     
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    @FrancesLPeck Yes! Can be exhausting, and exhilarating: stepping into the shoes of a different me to interact w others #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 And most of us relate best one on one, not in crowds. Pair up, talk awhile, move on. #EditorsChat  https://twitter.com/tanyatrusler/status/661705853032988672 
     
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    .@tanyatrusler @dbwcomm Clearly, pairs are the grouping of choice for editors! #EditorsChat
     
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    @FrancesLPeck A7 I look for someone standing by themselves – they are usually happy to strike up a conversation. #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 @lhietkamp Yes, we introverts must recharge post-networking. Susan Cain's book Quiet & her TED talk: great re introversion. #EditorsChat
     
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    Q5. Est-ce une bonne idée d'avoir un mentor pour trouver du travail? #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    @StaceyDAtkinson R5. Moi, je trouve que oui! La difficulté c'est d'en trouver un. #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    @StaceyDAtkinson @16annelou R5. Je pense que c'est toujours bon d'avoir quelqu'un pour nous épauler, nous conseiller.#ReviseursCauserie
     
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    @editorscanada Anyone interested in tips on contracting to the Government of Canada? #EditorsChat
     
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    OK, I see some "likes" for government contracting so I'll fire away! #EditorsChat
     
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    The Gov’t of Cda is one of our largest markets & wants to do more business with #smallbiz, even solopreneurs. #EditorsChat
     
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    2016 will be a big year for writing & editing outsourcing because of the Canada.ca web renewal project. #EditorsChat
     
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    1,500 websites are being streamlined to fit into a single Canada.ca website. Everything is to be done by December 2016. #EditorsChat
     
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    Remember: you often don’t have to be bilingual, you don’t have to live in Ottawa & you can be a sole proprietor. #EditorsChat
     
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    For an overview on how to contract to the Gov’t of Cda, see my 2014 G&M article:  http://bit.ly/1zQNAwr  #EditorsChat
     
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    First up: Register in the federal govt's Supplier Registration Information database.  http://bit.ly/1Q4sjsP  #EditorsChat
     
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    2/2 Scour it thoroughly & take free webinars on selling your services.  http://bit.ly/112lH6t  #EditorsChat
     
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    Apply to get on ProServices. Great for solopreneurs because no proof of revenues are required.  http://bit.ly/UEjj3T  #EditorsChat
     
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    Another ProServices plus—you can apply for security clearance without having a contract in place.  http://bit.ly/UEjj3T  #EditorsChat
     
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    Final tip: PWGSC is supposed to be issuing a writing and editing services buying tool soon. #EditorsChat
     
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    Ask PWGSC supply specialist Cassandra Andruchow to put you on her notifications list.  http://bit.ly/1OmRLtf  #EditorsChat
     
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    I'll make that my last federal gov't tip because we're out of time :-) #EditorsChat
     
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    @msoubliere They were great tips! Sorry we ran out of time (an hour goes by fast, especially with such great company!) #EditorsChat
     
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    Wrap-up / En conclusion

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    Thanks, #EditorsChat, @editorscanada, great ideas. Planning to follow up on website, ODE suggestions.
     
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    Am making a necessary (not dramatic) exit for next appointment. Great chat, everyone! Thx to @editorscanada and our hosts. #EditorsChat
     
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    Thanks for an informative chat, @editorscanada! Great networking with everyone here. #EditorsChat
     
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    Hi, #EditorsChat folk! Sticking head in at end on quick break from deadline rush. Some great advice here!
     
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    That’s a wrap for our second #EditorsChat. Thank you to everyone who participated during the chat and who sent in questions ahead of time.
     
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    C’est tout pour ce soir! Merci à tous ceux qui ont participé à notre deuxième séance de clavardage. #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    Thanks also to our #EditorsChat co-host, @StaceyDAtkinson. And to @michelleou from @editorscanada for helping to organize our chat.
     
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    @editorscanada @dbwcomm @msoubliere My pleasure! And thanks to everyone for asking such great questions. #EditorsChat
     
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    Thanks @editorscanada and everyone on the chat for a fun and informative hour! #EditorsChat
     
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    #EditorsChat Can't wait to check out the Storify with my mom and first, best freelance business advisor, Lee "Raise Your Rates!" d'Anjou.
     
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    Next #EditorsChat / La prochaine séance de clavardage sur Twitter (#ReviseursCauserie)

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    Next month’s Twitter chat will take place on Tues, Dec 8 @ 2 pm EST. Join us for "Talkin' 'bout my punctuation!" #EditorsChat
     
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    La prochaine séance de clavardage sur Twitter sera le mardi 8 dec à 14 h, HNE : À votre ponctuation! #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    .@editorscanada Looking forward to it. Chats re punctuation are the only time I can say “interrobang” w/o getting funny looks! #EditorsChat
     
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    .@tanyatrusler @editorscanada Or my personal fave: "suspended hyphen"! Sounds so dramatic.... #EditorsChat
     
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