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#EditorsChat 7: How can you use your interest in science and technology to be a STEM editor?

 

STEM editing / La révision en STIM (#EditorsChat / #ReviseursCauserie 7)

 

 
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    To stay competitive in an increasingly complex and innovative world, Canadians are being encouraged to enter the science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM) fields. Whatever the field, whenever content is created, editors are needed to refine that content and improve communication.
    How can you use your interest in science and technology to be a STEM editor?
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    Pour demeurer concurrentiels dans un monde de plus en plus complexe et novateur, les Canadiens sont invités à embrasser des professions dans les secteurs de la science, de la technologie, de l'ingénierie et des mathématiques (STIM). Peu importe le domaine, lorsqu'il y a création de contenu, il faut des réviseurs pour peaufiner les textes et améliorer la communication.
    Comment se servir de son intérêt pour la science et la technologie pour devenir un réviseur en STIM?
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    On your marks / À vos marques…

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    Join us Monday, Feb 27 @ 2 pm, EST, for #EditorsChat. We’ll share experiences and tips about becoming a STEM editor.  http://www.editors.ca/news/join-us-february-27-stem-editing-editorschat 
     
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    I'm looking forward to being a guest speaker on the #EditorsChat about STEM editing. Join us on Monday, Feb. 27, 2 p.m. EST (11 a.m. PST).
     
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    Next #EditorsChat: STEM editing—how can you kick-start a career in this industry on the rise? Tweet with us Feb 27.  http://www.editors.ca/news/join-us-february-27-stem-editing-editorschat 
     
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    Get set / prêts…

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    Looking forward to our 11 am PST Editors Canada STEM Twitter chat with Suzanne Purkis, Kara Stahl, Eva van Emden, and me! #Editorschat
     
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    I'm looking forward to it too! Join us at 2pm EST to learn about #editing science, medicine, and more. #EditorsChat  https://twitter.com/MargShawComm/status/836251196427902977 
     
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    #EditorsChat starts at 2 p.m., EST today. Will you be joining us for the first time? Here’s how to participate:  http://www.editors.ca/editorschat 
     
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    #ReviseursCauserie, aujourd’hui, à 14 h, HNE. Si vous nous rejoignez pour la première fois, consultez :  http://www.reviseurs.ca/reviseurscauserie 
     
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    #EditorsChat starts in 15 min. We’ll be tweeting a lot for an hour. You could mute us, but why not join us and learn about STEM editing?
     
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    #ReviseursCauserie commencera dans 10 min. Nous allons « tweeter » pendant une heure. Rejoignez la conversation!
     
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    Getting ready for #EditorsChat at 2pm EST to talk about #STEM editing!
     
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    Will take part in my *first* #EditorsChat in less than 15 min. Today's topic: medical, technical, and scientific editing. It'll be fun!
     
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    Almost time for today's #EditorsChat! Join us for a lively discussion about how to become a #STEM editor.
     
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    Looking forward to my first #editorschat :) Today's topic is STEM editing.
     
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    Voulez-vous parler de la révision médicale, scientifique et technique en français? Servez-vous du mot-clic #ReviseursCauserie. À très vite!
     
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    The #STEM #EditorsChat begins shortly./ La #ReviseursCauserie au sujet du #STIM commence sous peu. :-) *excitedness*
     
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    Go! / Commencez!

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    #EditorsChat is under way! Thank you for joining us! How is everyone today?
     
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    #ReviseursCauserie commence! Merci de nous joindre. Comment ça va tout le monde?
     
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    Looking forward to participating to today's chat! J'ai très hâte que la causerie d'aujourd'hui commence! #EditorsChat #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    My first #EditorsChat, too! Happy I can be here (unexpectedly!)
     
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    @editorscanada I'm doing well in a quiet suburb north of Montreal. :) #EditorsChat
     
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    We’re talking about how to use your interest in science and technology to be a STEM editor in today’s #EditorsChat
     
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    Nous parlons de comment se servir de son intérêt pour la science et la technologie pour devenir un réviseur en STIM #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    Hello from Ottawa! Thrilled to be a guest today! #EditorsChat
     
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    I'm a medical editor at Health Quality Ontario .@hqo in Toronto #editorschat
     
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    I'm in beautiful Coquitlam, B.C., outside Vancouver, and it is snowing. #Editorschat
     
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    I'm a technical writer and editor with a background in earth sciences. #Editorschat
     
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    A brand new experience for me. Glad to be here with you all. #Editorschat
     
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    We’re tracking all of the #EditorsChat questions for our guest speakers and will retweet them in sequence.
     
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    Nous prenons vos questions et les «retweetons» en ordre afin que nos invités puissent y répondre. #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    Please remember to use our answer-tagging format (e.g., if you’re responding to Q1, add “A1” to your tweet). #EditorsChat
     
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    Veuillez marquer vos réponses avec le même nombre (p.ex. R1 en réponse à Q1) #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    Let’s get started! Have questions about becoming a STEM editor? Have advice to share? Tweet with us! #EditorsChat
     
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    Commençons! Avez-vous des questions sur la révision en STEM? Avez-vous des conseils à partager? Venez clavarder avec nous #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    @editorscanada How important is it to have an "official" background in editing, if you have a degree in STEM? #EditorsChat
     
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    Q1 How important is it to have an "official" background in editing, if you have a degree in STEM? #EditorsChat
     
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    Q1 Quelle formation est nécessaire pour un réviseur médical ou scientifique? #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A1 Une bonne base en révision est essentielle. On peut ensuite se perfectionner et développer nos connaissances. #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A1 Very. Editors are experts at what they do, and there's a lot to learn about how to be a good editor! #editorschat
     
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    A1: I've worked with one company that specifically wanted editors with both a technical background and formal editing training #EditorsChat
     
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    A1 Recommend an editing/publishing certificate program. A solid copy editing foundation is a must. #editorschat
     
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    A1 It's important to know the language rules for #STEM editing, so some background is a good idea. #EditorsChat
     
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    A1 I'd say very important indeed. There is so much to keep track of, and with highly complex material, the clearer the better #Editorschat
     
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    A1 I started in STEM editing without a science degree; some come from a science background and learning editing, others reverse #editorschat
     
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    A1: I find the academic degree requirements are all over the place. Some companies want a PhD, other clients don't ask. #editorschat
     
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    A1: Knowledge of a spec. topic & linguistic skills go hand in hand; it's therefore essential to have a background in editing. #EditorsChat
     
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    @editorscanada Or the reverse: If you have a background in editing, how important is it to have an advanced degree? #EditorsChat
     
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    A2 I'd say not as much! It often helps NOT to be a subject matter expert. You can ask the questions readers will ask #editorschat
     
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    A2 That said, you do need to be familiar with the language and context of your field #editorschat
     
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    A2 I have a background in research (psych) and editing - perfect combo for editing med tech reports :) #editorschat
     
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    @dixichkn It's frustrating...I have a strong background in STEM editing, but clients want eds with PhDs. Considering BELS cert. #EditorsChat
     
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    I have noticed this more and more with medical writing/editing. It's irritating, but I often have enough experience to bypass. #editorschat  https://twitter.com/fostertivity/status/836293545971617793 
     
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    @dixichkn I have found BELS certification useful, but still cannot get work from clients demanding PhD #editorschat
     
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    Wow! That's sort of depressing. I think editorial skills are much more helpful; the rest you can learn. #EditorsChat  https://twitter.com/cjbrownatlarge/status/836294325353005059 
     
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    A2 Editing experience is key if you work as an #editor. Advanced degrees aren't always necessary. #EditorsChat
     
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    Q2 I think it depends. I know that for much of my work, I depend on my uni degrees, but I know others with a journalism b/g. #Editorschat
     
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    A2 My ed. background is in #neuropsychology but only at the undergraduate level. #EditorsChat
     
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    A2 Strong editing background more important than sci background-you can pick up the sci but need to be grounded in the editing #editorschat
     
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    @editorscanada A2. Agree w/ @dixichkn. Tech co hired me to manage comms partly bc I'm not an eng & could get to heart of topic #EditorsChat
     
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    A2 Prof. devel. workshops, in-house practices, & discussions w/ colleagues: how to stay up-to-date w/ terminology & technology. #EditorsChat
     
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    For scientific writing according to Duke U, you need the degree. For scientific editing the degree is helpful. #Editorschat
     
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    A2: Sounds like client's degree requirements have to do with culture of org and how they view/value editorial skills #editorschat
     
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    A2 Agree with @vaneditor Degree doesn't nec make you a better editor and requirement seems to vary by hirer #editorschat
     
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    And who audience is. If pieces are consumer-facing, compay may look for someone who writes/edits w/out jargon (etc) #EditorsChat  https://twitter.com/vaneditor/status/836294793814659072 
     
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    A2: Often my clients are authors who feel they have a weakness in writing mechanics, but not science. So no degree needed. #editorschat
     
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    I agree no degree required. Right now I'm editing an environmental report on a dredging project - much of it structural editing #Editorschat
     
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    For science writing, which I think is mostly what Carolyn Brown does, the journalism/writing-first route is great. #Editorschat
     
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    Q3 What are good style manuals to consult for scientific and technical editing? #EditorsChat
     
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    Quels sont les bons manuels de style à consulter pour la révision scientifique et technique? #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A3 At .@hqo we use .@AMAManual but for anything AMA doesn’t cover I go to .@ChicagoManual.The online versions are indispensable #editorschat
     
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    A3: I found Subtleties of Scientific Style by Matthew Stevens is a great intro to many issues of tech editing #editorschat
     
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    A3 If you're editing for journals, get familiar with their unique style/formatting requirements #editorschat
     
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    A3 Depends on the fields, but I use @AMAManual, @APA_Style, Scientific Style and Format (@CScienceEditors). #EditorsChat
     
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    A3: Also the APA manual for social sciences. #EditorsChat
     
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    A3 Also, our very own ECE has a good chapter on measurement, and our Editorial Niches has a good STEM chapter. #Editorschat
     
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    A2 Source de Margaret Shaw : ECE has a good chapter on measurement, and our Editorial Niches has a good STEM chapter #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A3 A quick online research gave me one tool for scientific & technical editors:  http://bit.ly/2mn3wYQ  #EditorsChat
     
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    A3 Tech editors could consult Acorn Technical Publications Style Guide or Apple Publications Style Guide, to name but a few. #EditorsChat
     
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    A3 Thanks for those tech-editing style guide suggestions, @qctranslator #EditorsChat
     
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    A3 In addition to those mentioned by @Lucid_Editing, ACS style guide (chemistry), IEEE style guide (eng, electronics, IT) #editorschat
     
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    A3: Microsoft manual of style is really helpful for IT material. #editorschat
     
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    @editorscanada A3 IBM & Microsoft have style guides (I've broken the spines on mine). Check w/ your client to see which they want you to use
     
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    @editorscanada My copy of Butcher's Copy-Editing is pretty pristine. #editorschat
     
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    @editorscanada Never had a client who used it. But when I do, I'll be ready! #editorschat
     
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    A3 To my great research surprise, Canada doesn't seem to have guides dedicated to tech or med writing. Hmmm. #EditorsChat
     
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    @qctranslator A3 Canadians in STEM tend to use international (mainly US but not always) style guides #editorschat
     
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    @qctranslator Another thought: Canada's STEM publishing community may be too small to have our own guides #editorschat
     
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    A3 The Geological Survey of Canada has a Guide to Authors (2016). #Editorschat
     
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    Q4 What program do you use to format journal articles? In school we used InDesign, but submissions seem to be required in Word. #EditorsChat
     
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    Q4 Quel logiciel utilisez-vous pour formater les articles de revues? InDesign ou Word? #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A3 Je fais la relecture du Bulletin de l'Association canadienne de radioprotection et je travaille sur PDF ou Word. #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    @editorscanada I'd have expected FrameMaker to be required for many tech documents. #editorschat
     
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    A4 I don't edit for journals so not sure. In general, it's good to become a Word expert - really a lot it can do! #editorschat
     
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    Q4 The journal articles I've worked on were in Word. The publisher would then format. #Editorschat
     
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    A4 Word is what I (and my clients) usually use. Occasionally PDF, but most #journals want Word docs. #EditorsChat
     
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    A4: Most journals provide Word or LaTex templates for submissions; typesetters usually use InDesign (separate process) #EditorsChat
     
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    A4: I usually edit journal articles in Word. But occasionally I've edited the LaTeX source file or a PDF. #editorschat
     
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    A4 I am providing French proofreading for the journal of the Canadian Radiation Protection Association and usually work on PDF. #EditorsChat
     
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    @editorscanada I'm a programmer/IT manager moving into editing and tech writing. How should I target tech publishers? #editorschat
     
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    Q5 I'm a programmer/IT manager moving into editing and tech writing. How should I target tech publishers? #editorschat
     
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    Q5 Comment puis-je me promouvoir en tant que réviseur technique? À qui devrais-je m’adresser? #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A5 Le réseautage et la promotion de nos services sont toujours d'excellents moyens(collègues, associations, amis, famille)#ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A5J'ai eu mon premier contrat dans le domaine(relecture bulletin ACRP) grâce à une collègue Michelle Boulton @MichBoulton #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    Q5 You'd do well to join the Society for Technical Communication. They have chapters across the country and abroad. #Editorschat
     
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    @MargShawComm A5 But then again, do all Cdn provinces/territories have assoc. for technical/medical writers & editors? #EditorsChat
     
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    A5 Tech/med writers & editors can join assoc dedicated to their practice. But does Canada have such associations? #EditorsChat
     
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    .@qctranslator AMWA Canada is v good (my membership is currently in arrears, gulp) #editorschat
     
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    @electricland Never heard of that association. Thank God for chats like this one! #EditorsChat
     
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    @qctranslator @MargShawComm I think they are more likely to be in communities with a mature tech (or med) presence. #EditorsChat
     
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    A5 @qctranslator There is the Canadian Radiation Protection Association (CRPA) #EditorsChat
     
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    @qctranslator @MargShawComm Yes, we have a STC Chapter, likely bc of established tech firms w/ permanent comms staff #EditorsChat 1/
     
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    @qctranslator @MargShawComm From what I see, local tech startup community leave dedicated comms for later stages #EditorsChat 2/2
     
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    @qctranslator I am not sure about medical editing. The STC has a variety of people, though, from comp sci to instruc. design #Editorschat
     
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    For programming and IT field, I would say target book pubs you see around you, but also advertise so authors can find you. #editorschat
     
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    A5 Start with who you know, got to #networking events, follow orgs you'd like to work with on Twitter... #editorschat
     
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    A5: You could try the trade show of an IT conf. Email IT publishers. Work your LinkedIn net to see if you have contacts. #editorschat
     
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    A5 My listing in the @editorscanada online directory brings me lots of clients. You can search by keywords, which is helpful. #EditorsChat
     
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    A5 Avoir un bon profil sur Répertoire électronique des réviseurs, site Web, présence réseaux sociaux apporte des clients. #ReviseursCauserie  https://twitter.com/Lucid_Editing/status/836300481802698758 
     
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    A5 I've had great work from my listing in the online directory too. #Editorschat
     
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    A5 Margaret Shaw @MargSgawComm donne d'excellentes idées aussi pour promouvoir nos services et nous spécialiser. #ReviseursCauserie  https://twitter.com/MargShawComm/status/836301978644860928 
     
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    @editorscanada Any recommendations for training from @AmMedWriters? Has anyone found that helpful? #EditorsChat
     
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    Q6 Any recommendations for training from @AmMedWriters? Has anyone found that helpful? #EditorsChat
     
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    A6 I haven't tried their training yet but I've heard it's excellent :) #editorschat
     
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    @AmMedWriters was invaluable to me in my early days working on medical journals; I have a core curriculum cert from AMWA #editorschat
     
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    A6  http://www.copyediting.com  is an excellent learning resource, too - lots of relevant webinars! #editorschat
     
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    Q7 How do you stay up-to-date with new terms and changing technology? #EditorsChat
     
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    Q7 Comment tenez-vous au courant avec des nouveaux termes et nouvelles technologies? #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A7 Interesting question. I don't specialize enough to study up. I rely heavily on Google for just-in-time learning as I edit. #editorschat
     
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    A7 I'm with you. Medicine is such a huge and ever-evolving field anyway, it's important to make sure you have current info! #EditorsChat  https://twitter.com/vaneditor/status/836301505267322882 
     
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    A7 Conferences & newsletters (@editorscanada, @CScienceEditors, industry specific). Follow style guides, journals, etc. #EditorsChat
     
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    .@dixichkn @editorscanada Yes, mailing lists are excellent continuing ed and collaboration #editorschat
     
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    A7 Our association is a great resource: Editors Canada blogs, Facebook groups, our email list - I find them all really useful #Editorschat
     
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    MOOCs are great for quick learning - eg, I took a course on understanding research statistics - helps me w reports I edit #editorschat
     
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    A7 If available, I also rely on subject-matter experts for a given project - they can really help you cut through jargon #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 Related to @electricland's comment, some clients have their own lists of terminology. #Editorschat
     
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    A7 Follow orgs on Twitter/FB, too - keep track of what they're talking about #editorschat
     
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    @electricland Oh noooooooooo!!! But edi-networking is fun!!! :) #editorschat
     
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    A7 My work is varied as well, so I rely on Google and even pull out uni textbooks to understand terms and concepts as needed #Editorschat
     
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    A7: To clarify, I update editing skills through @editorscanada and other. But subject matter knowledge is harder to update. #editorschat
     
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    A7 I also have a few current introductory university texts on biostats, genetics, etc. #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 I stick to Google Scholar, PubMed, etc. because you can find lots of badly expressed crap you should ignore on Google #EditorsChat
     
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    @cjbrownatlarge Google Scholar is also great for figuring out the most commonly used term when there are multiple versions. #EditorsChat
     
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    @Lucid_Editing Exactly. See which variant generates most results. Look at sentences in results to use correctly in a sentence. #editorschat
     
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    A7 @cjbrownatlarge True, but when I was editing a huge electrical doc and needed overview info, Google searches were great #Editorschat
     
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    @Lucid_Editing @cjbrownatlarge Learn something new every day! I must add Google Scholar to my repertoire! #editorschat
     
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    A7 Editors' Association of Earth Facebook group is a good place to consult with #editing colleagues (worldwide) #editorschat
     
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    A7 And Wikipedia is indispensable for overviews of new areas and terminology, especially IT. Just don't cite it. #EditorsChat
     
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    A7 Remember you can't know everything! No shame in asking questions or admitting you don't know stg :) #editorschat
     
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    Q8 Is most technical and scientific editing carried out in the private, not-for-profit or government sector? #EditorsChat
     
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    Q8 La révision technique/scientifique est-elle plutôt réalisée dans le secteur privé, sans but lucratif ou gouvernemental #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A8 Not sure but there's more in-house work avail for sci editing; it's an area of editing that’s growing, not shrinking #editorschat
     
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    A8 I think it’s pretty diverse, but my clients mostly come from the research/ university and non-profit sectors. #EditorsChat
     
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    A8: I think it's hard to say. Technical editing is so broad (even includes cookbooks and knitting) that it's everywhere. #editorschat
     
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    A8 Can't speak for the private or non-profit sector, but I'd think that most tech & med editing is carried out in the gov't. #EditorsChat
     
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    A8 2/ I believe some of my colleagues are tech and sci editors for the fed gov't. It's apparently a lucrative job! #EditorsChat
     
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    R8 Côté OBNL et privé, je l'ignore, mais je crois que je connais des réviseurs tech et méd qui travaillent au fédéral. #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    A8 Most of my work is from goverment and business. Some has been from small publishers and a tiny bit from not-for-profit. #Editorschat
     
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    A8 Lots of STEM in academic sector and publishing (commercial and society/non-profit) #EditorsChat
     
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    @editorscanada What's the best piece of advice for a young sci grad with good writing skills interested in editing? #editorschat
     
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    Jordan - take editing courses and/or seminars. #Editorschat
     
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    @GeophysGinger I would suggest courses in editing certificate programs, and also getting involved with editing organizations. #editorschat
     
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    .@GeophysGinger .@editorscanada Editing course/certificate, social media is huge - get connected with other eds #editorschat
     
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    @GeophysGinger @editorscanada Most of my jobs have come through the editors' grapevine :) #editorschat
     
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    Just starting out as an editor. I have a PhD in Earth Sciences. What's the best way to advertising my skills to clients? #editorschat
     
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    @AliceSChang Direct contact (email, phone) still the best way to make potential clients aware of your existence, esp in STEM #editorschat
     
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    @AliceSChang Among other things, check out professional orgs in your field and see if they have lists of editors. #editorschat
     
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    Alice - I recommend you use your networks, including social media but also your friends. Let everyone know you are an editor. #Editorschat
     
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    .@AliceSChang Let everyone know what you're doing and get connected with other eds on social media - we like to help ea other! #editorschat
     
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    @AliceSChang Also, if there's a conference in your city, get a ticket for the trade show only and market to companies there. #EditorsChat
     
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    @AliceSChang I agree with Eva. I recently spent a full day at Assoc Mineral Explor Roundup marketing myself to mining companies #Editorschat
     
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    For new/aspiring editors, consider joining a professional org like @editorscanada. Amazing for learning/networking! #editorschat
     
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    Wrap-up / En conclusion

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    That’s a wrap for #EditorsChat. Thank you to everyone who participated during the chat and who sent in questions ahead of time.
     
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    C’est tout pour aujourd’hui! Merci à tous ceux qui ont participé à notre séance de clavardage. #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    Thank you to all, this has been very helpful! #editorschat
     
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    @editorscanada Great chat! Learned a few things, met some new people, had a grand ol' time! #editorschat
     
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    Thank everyone! I really enjoyed it! Merci tout le monde! J'ai adoré ça! #EditorsChat #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    That was quite the one-hour tech/med/sci discussion! I learned a few tips & got leads along the way. Thx! #EditorsChat #ReviseursCauserie
     
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    @editorscanada This has been a wonderful opportunity. Thank you to all who set it up and participated! #Editorschat
     
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    Something you may not know is there are entire books about scientific writing. Check the bookseller websites. #Editorschat
     
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    Thanks for the resources and ideas, everyone! #editorschat
     
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    P.S. @EditorCon (#Editors17) will have sessions on academic, medical, and science editing. #EditorsChat
     
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    We’ll announce the date and theme for our next #EditorsChat soon. If you have topic suggestions, tweet at us!
     
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    Nous annoncerons bientôt la date et le thème de la prochaine séance de #ReviseursCauserie. « Tweeter » nous vos suggestions de sujets.
     
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    #EditorsChat signing off. Look for a recap of this chat on Storify in the next couple of days.  https://storify.com/editorscanada 
     
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    La discussion #ReviseursCauserie se termine maintenant. Il y aura bientôt un récapitulatif sur Storify  https://storify.com/editorscanada